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Just imagine you went to work and found yourself the victim of a burglar with a gun. How would you feel? Powerless? violated? Angry? Do you want to quit the job and work elsewhere? Do you want the cops to take care of the burglar that ran away with your stuff? Do you wish you COULD find another job so you didn't have to put up with this?
What if you had to go back to work, because you have bills to pay and no better alternatives? So you go back to work and it happens again. The police won't protect you. They can't. There aren't enough of them to protect you all the time and still do the job that they are charged to do. They can't protect everyone at once, and they can't even protect one person indefinitely. Never the less, the burglar is there, with a gun, demanding your valuables. Still feeling pretty good about yourself? How do you feel when it happens AGAIN 6 weeks later?
It can't happen like that. Right? People don't get robbed that much, do they? Well, if you ask a Cudahy, Wisconsin resident who delivers pizza for a living on Milwaukee's north side, you might just find out differently.
In Wisconsin, we have both national (2nd Amendment: www.archives.gov/national-...ghts.html) and state level (Art 1 s.25 www.legis.state.wi.us/statute...nst.pdf) constitutional guarantees of the right to keep and bear arms. That right is mitigated by the concealed carry law (941.23 www.legis.state.wi.us/statute...941.pdf) which makes it a misdemeanor to have a weapon concealed. Wisconsin further mitigates the law through a variety of policies at state, local, and municipal levels for treatment of weapons and the people who posess them. As an example of how extreme and absurd these policies actually are, if the milwaukee cops see a weapon that belongs to the victim of a multi vehicle accident, at the scene of the accident, they feel free to take the weapon, run it through exhaustive tests, and then melt it down. Even if the victim of both the accident and the subsequent robbery committed by the police, protests the theft of his property and requests that it remain in his custody or the custody of his spouse who is present, the cops will do what they wish. In one case, it took 5 injunctions against various agencies and multiple trips to court with lawyers just to get a judge to order a very reluctant police department to return the private property of a local citizen.
So how does this state, and particularly the city of Milwaukee, respond to a man who, after being robbed previously, and being otherwise defenseless, goes to work to earn a living in a dangerous area? Do they provide him with a police escort? Do they offer to train him in the use of pepper spray or some other non-lethal method of defending himself? Do they even offer to give him a whistle so that he can make a noise to attract attention while he is being robbed? NOPE.
How does the state react when he carries a weapon into the hood to protect himself while he goes about his daily work? Do they offer him a better job? Do they offer him marksmanship classes, or information on shooting ranges where he can practice? Do they smile and say: "I hope you never have to use it."? NOPE!
And what happens when, inevitably, he is robbed? Not once, but on multiple occasions? Do they run to his aid? NOT A CHANCE!
And when he is forced to shoot his attacker to protect himself? Do they stand beside him? Do they hail him as a hero? Do they even recognize him for his self control in not killing the crook that would not have thought twice about killing him? Do they congatulate him for his self reliance and independence? Do they thank him for helping to capture a dangerous criminal? Do they even recognize that the state constitution may specifically allow him to conceal a weapon because his personal interest in carrying the weapon (staying alive) outweighs the state's need for him not to conceal it, and that concealing the weapon was the only reasonable way to continue to do his job while ensuring that he stays alive and NOT creating any form of public disturbance? NO WAY!!!!
As the city of Milwaukee chokes on the classification of this shooting as justified, they warn the man that he should not exercise his constitutional right to keep and bear arms because he was doing it in a "concealed" manner by storing the gun in his pocket. Of course, based on the way they treat accident victims, one could easily assume that they would have an equally ridiculous response to keeping and bearing arms in an "open carry" manner which would, of course, create a public disturbance.
And the second time he is forced to shoot a robber in order to protect himself, what do the police do? They charge him with concealed carry for having the gun lay on the passenger seat of the car. They know this poor guy is just trying to make a living. They know he is working in a dangerous area. They know he is a target to robbers because he is a delivery guy. They know that they would not do his job unarmed, for the very same reasons that he does not. They know that he does not go around brandishing his weapon. They know that he has only used it when his life was in danger. They know that his life is, in fact, in danger based on the job he is forced to do JUST to pay the bills....AND YET, they choose to persecute him.
Why would the city choose to persecute an otherwise law abiding citizen for acting within his rights under the constitution of this nation and the state in which he lives and works? This is all part of a highly organized effort by certain factions within the state of Wisconsin to achieve a disarmed population. If they can get a conviction on this poor delivery guy from Cudahy, then they can use it as a precedent against the next guy who protects himself. And eventaully, when armed police come into your home and pat you down and disarm you, as they did to me on one occasion while responding to a complaint that I, myself, called in, they will be able to charge you with some sort of a crime for having your own gun, in your own home, and doing nothing to threaten or harm anyone. And that is why they pick on the otherwise innocent, law abiding citizens who have no real way to defend themselves.
This man is a hero. He is a REAL AMERICAN. He goes to work, even though it is not the best job. He takes risks to make a living. He is self reliant. He chooses not to suck on W2 or unemployment or disability, or any of the other government teats that exist out there. And for being a real American, this man is persecuted by the government that wants to make sure that it can meet all of our needs whether we like it or not.
Newspaper Article Here: www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx
What if you had to go back to work, because you have bills to pay and no better alternatives? So you go back to work and it happens again. The police won't protect you. They can't. There aren't enough of them to protect you all the time and still do the job that they are charged to do. They can't protect everyone at once, and they can't even protect one person indefinitely. Never the less, the burglar is there, with a gun, demanding your valuables. Still feeling pretty good about yourself? How do you feel when it happens AGAIN 6 weeks later?
It can't happen like that. Right? People don't get robbed that much, do they? Well, if you ask a Cudahy, Wisconsin resident who delivers pizza for a living on Milwaukee's north side, you might just find out differently.
In Wisconsin, we have both national (2nd Amendment: www.archives.gov/national-...ghts.html) and state level (Art 1 s.25 www.legis.state.wi.us/statute...nst.pdf) constitutional guarantees of the right to keep and bear arms. That right is mitigated by the concealed carry law (941.23 www.legis.state.wi.us/statute...941.pdf) which makes it a misdemeanor to have a weapon concealed. Wisconsin further mitigates the law through a variety of policies at state, local, and municipal levels for treatment of weapons and the people who posess them. As an example of how extreme and absurd these policies actually are, if the milwaukee cops see a weapon that belongs to the victim of a multi vehicle accident, at the scene of the accident, they feel free to take the weapon, run it through exhaustive tests, and then melt it down. Even if the victim of both the accident and the subsequent robbery committed by the police, protests the theft of his property and requests that it remain in his custody or the custody of his spouse who is present, the cops will do what they wish. In one case, it took 5 injunctions against various agencies and multiple trips to court with lawyers just to get a judge to order a very reluctant police department to return the private property of a local citizen.
So how does this state, and particularly the city of Milwaukee, respond to a man who, after being robbed previously, and being otherwise defenseless, goes to work to earn a living in a dangerous area? Do they provide him with a police escort? Do they offer to train him in the use of pepper spray or some other non-lethal method of defending himself? Do they even offer to give him a whistle so that he can make a noise to attract attention while he is being robbed? NOPE.
How does the state react when he carries a weapon into the hood to protect himself while he goes about his daily work? Do they offer him a better job? Do they offer him marksmanship classes, or information on shooting ranges where he can practice? Do they smile and say: "I hope you never have to use it."? NOPE!
And what happens when, inevitably, he is robbed? Not once, but on multiple occasions? Do they run to his aid? NOT A CHANCE!
And when he is forced to shoot his attacker to protect himself? Do they stand beside him? Do they hail him as a hero? Do they even recognize him for his self control in not killing the crook that would not have thought twice about killing him? Do they congatulate him for his self reliance and independence? Do they thank him for helping to capture a dangerous criminal? Do they even recognize that the state constitution may specifically allow him to conceal a weapon because his personal interest in carrying the weapon (staying alive) outweighs the state's need for him not to conceal it, and that concealing the weapon was the only reasonable way to continue to do his job while ensuring that he stays alive and NOT creating any form of public disturbance? NO WAY!!!!
As the city of Milwaukee chokes on the classification of this shooting as justified, they warn the man that he should not exercise his constitutional right to keep and bear arms because he was doing it in a "concealed" manner by storing the gun in his pocket. Of course, based on the way they treat accident victims, one could easily assume that they would have an equally ridiculous response to keeping and bearing arms in an "open carry" manner which would, of course, create a public disturbance.
And the second time he is forced to shoot a robber in order to protect himself, what do the police do? They charge him with concealed carry for having the gun lay on the passenger seat of the car. They know this poor guy is just trying to make a living. They know he is working in a dangerous area. They know he is a target to robbers because he is a delivery guy. They know that they would not do his job unarmed, for the very same reasons that he does not. They know that he does not go around brandishing his weapon. They know that he has only used it when his life was in danger. They know that his life is, in fact, in danger based on the job he is forced to do JUST to pay the bills....AND YET, they choose to persecute him.
Why would the city choose to persecute an otherwise law abiding citizen for acting within his rights under the constitution of this nation and the state in which he lives and works? This is all part of a highly organized effort by certain factions within the state of Wisconsin to achieve a disarmed population. If they can get a conviction on this poor delivery guy from Cudahy, then they can use it as a precedent against the next guy who protects himself. And eventaully, when armed police come into your home and pat you down and disarm you, as they did to me on one occasion while responding to a complaint that I, myself, called in, they will be able to charge you with some sort of a crime for having your own gun, in your own home, and doing nothing to threaten or harm anyone. And that is why they pick on the otherwise innocent, law abiding citizens who have no real way to defend themselves.
This man is a hero. He is a REAL AMERICAN. He goes to work, even though it is not the best job. He takes risks to make a living. He is self reliant. He chooses not to suck on W2 or unemployment or disability, or any of the other government teats that exist out there. And for being a real American, this man is persecuted by the government that wants to make sure that it can meet all of our needs whether we like it or not.
Newspaper Article Here: www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx
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Re: Hero Needs Help
Tue, February 27, 2007 - 6:54 AMMilwaukee sounds like it has turned into Santa Fe. When I was living there I had 2 of my officers who the county attorney tried to screw for lawfully defending themselves.
Case 1) One of our officers was responding to a domestic disturbance (drunk) in the projects. When he arrives, the drunk picks up a bat and begins swinging it, telling the officer he is going to kill him. The officer draws his glock, issues repeated warnings while retreating. When he had been backed into a chain-link fence he was forced to shoot.
When the police arrived their only question was "Why'd you wait so ling to shoot this asshole?"
It took him more than 2 years just to get his gun back. The County proscecutor sent the case to grand jury (where it recieved a unanimous no bill!.) The case is still in civil court!
Case 2) An officer (this is before he worked for me) was walking through town when 3 homies jump him. He pulls out his spiderco knife and goes to defending himself. In the process he kills one, injures another, and the 3rd chickenshit leaves the scene PDFQ. The police take report and release the man. But a few days later, the defender finds himself in jail! Worse yet, because he had killed a dirtbag (in a decidedly unfair fight) the local gang members had a contract out on him so he spent his 3 months in jail in super PC. Everytime we had to move him outside of his cell we had to announce it on the radiko just so we could lock down all prisoners anywhere in the area. The charges were eventually dropped with prejudice by a very disgusted superior court judge, but the man still spent 3 months in jail, and every time he applies for a job he has to briung out a ream of court papers to prove he was cleared of the felony. -
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Re: Hero Needs Help
Tue, February 27, 2007 - 10:45 AMYou know it is terrible that one has to go through so much crap no matter if they are law enforcement officers or just law abiding citizens trying to protect themselves. Milwaukee is quickly becoming the new mecca for crime in the U.S. because their are more laws restricting a citizens rights to self preservation than to deter criminals. Milwaukee spends more time and resources to issue parking citations and limit individual rights of self defense than in other civic agendas. It's all about the economics here and nothing about the good of the people!
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